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Neuroliminal Training Frequently Asked Questions
What's the difference between the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training and the usual subliminal audios?
While both do use subliminal messaging to affect the unconscious mind, they are completely different. The old "standard" subliminal messaging is used to gradually affect BEHAVIOR.
The Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training is quite different. It uses a combination of voice (text) and sounds so that it works directly to change the amplitude of certain brain waves.
While the "usual commercial" subliminal messaging audios are often successful, they work better when they are "tailored" to the individual's behavior. The "failure" of many such subliminal audios may also be due to the users "impatience - desiring a "quick fix", or "magic pill" solution and giving up too soon. All subliminal messaging is very slow, just like EEG biofeedback. It takes time to change brainwaves (or behavior).
How do Neurofeedback /EEG Biofeedback and the Bate Neuroliminal Brainwave Training cure "Brain Problems"?
Neither ever "cures" anything. What they both do is often called "brain training" and this is done in both systems by changing the amplitudes of certain brain waves. NFB/EEG BF does it with various expensive equipment, computer screens and simple games. Neuroliminal Training does it with a simple CD audio containing a soothing overlay audio (which aids in better sleep) with an underlying audio message mixed with audio signals that is not quite heard consciously, but which is heard and absorbed by the unconscious mind. Dr Bate's theory is that "raising the SMR brain wave SOMEHOW changes the affect on the brain of allergens". This theory seems to be proven from hundreds of experiences.
What are "Brain Problems"?
Brain problems can cover almost anything because the brain monitors everything and responds to various stresses with individual symptoms. For the purposes of this discourse, consider brain problems to be primarily mental problems that are often caused by allergy and/or sensitivity. This includes insomnia, depression, ADD/ADHD/Autism, IBS, epilepsy and schizophrenia. Stroke victims and brain damaged persons may also be helped considerably. Some persons have had good success working with addictions, both alcohol and drugs, by raising the SMR brain wave.
What happens if persons other than the trainee(s) listen to the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training audio?
Well, maybe nothing, or more likely, some better health in the form of less allergy/sensitivity, less depression, etc. There is no harm possible as this audio only changes certain brain waves in amplitude and this has been done by millions of people for years with no reported problem.
What do you mean "no harm possible"?
The unconscious mind is always on guard against anything that might possibly "upset" the status quo, or harm in any way. It rejects anything on this order. The Hawthorne Effect is probably a good example of this. It's sort of like hypnosis - a hypnotist can't make you do anything against your will or anything harmful to you!
What is the SMR (SensoryMotorResponse) brain wave?
The brain transmits a very weak (microvolts) complex set of audio signals. Over many years, scientists have classified these into distinct wave bands. The lowest is Delta (0-4 Hz), then comes Theta (4-8 Hz), next is Alpha (8-12 Hz) and then comes SMR (12-14 Hz). It should be noted that each individual may exhibit a slightly different frequency response from this. Persons with brain problems usually show low SMR brain waves.
What does allergy have to do with brain problems?
It has been well established that allergy and/or sensitivity can cause virtually any mental problem. Too bad that many MD allergists and psychiatrists as well as almost all psychologists aren't aware of this fact! Hayfever, asthma and other physical symptoms are well known and as a matter of fact, even these might be called brain problems since the unconscious mind controls all allergic reactions! Solve the allergy problem and you solve the brain problem at the source, in most cases!
What is the Bate Neuroliminal Training system?
The Bate Neuroliminal Training system is an inexpensive method devised by Dr Bate to raise the SMR brain wave by "sleep learning". For the brain problems of ADD to Autism, the lowering of the Theta brain wave is also used. (NASA found that doing this increases both attention and concentration, but also lowers "creativity" and "artistic ability", so this form of brain wave modification is not used except where "attention" problems are important). All CD's also increase brain blood flow in an analogous way to HEG BF. There is also some additional behavior modification included (not possible to do in NFB/EEG BF).
How does Neurofeedback/EEG biofeedback ) work?
Essentially, it works over many sessions (commonly 40-60 expensive half hours for ADD/ADHD and 200 hours+ for autism) to simply raise the SMR brain wave (and lower or control the Theta brain wave). It's really another form of beneficial "brainwashing" where the conscious mind trains the unconscious brain waves.
This all sounds like "brainwashing" and why shouldn't you be afraid of that?
Yes, it is actually similar in some ways. However, this is beneficial and is done to help persons, NOT to control them, or harm them in any way. Did you know that a "relative" of Neuroliminal (subliminal messaging) is being used in TV ads today? Most people think that there's a law against it, but this isn't true. It's happening all the time, but it's only effective if done for a long time. In the short term, it may convince some few easily convinced persons, but long term is required to really change brain waves, let alone thinking. It can and does affect our buying choices.
How is the Bate Neuroliminal Training system actually used?
Simply set up an audio player (with the "repeat" on) and with the sound set to a comfortable level and let it play while you simply sleep all night with the repetitive message playing. What the conscious mind hears is a soothing overlay sound. The real message is not quite audible and isn't heard well consciously, but the unconscious mind hears it and is gradually influenced by it. It's often called "beneficial brainwashing".
What is the percentage of persons solving such brain problems by the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training system?
Simply set up an audio player with the sound set to a medium comfortable level and let it play. Most persons sleep all night with the repetitive message playing. What the conscious mind hears is We have the data from our returns on our guarantee "Noticeable improvement within 60 days or return for refund". As of November 2011, the figures are:
ADD to Autism: With over 250 (newest version sold in last two plus years), only 1 return.
Insomnia, Depression, Anxiety, etc: Earlier versions had only 2 returns out of 100's sold.
For Weight Loss CD, none have been returned with over 100 sold.
For the Special (introduced one year ago), over 100 sold, and no returns.
It seems that subliminal training is similar to Neurofeedback/EEG BF clinical training in its effectiveness. Considering that the "cure rate" over all of clinics is generally agreed as 85-90%, it appears that NT is even more effective, and is able to be used longer because of costs.
ADD/ADHD seems to take about 2 months - equivalent to the "standard" 60 sessions for EEG BF. Autism takes up to a year or more. Depression relief seems to happen starting in a week or so, and insomnia for most persons is usually pretty fast as well. As in everything dealing with mind training, everyone is an INDIVIDUAL. But, who cares? Once you have the basic Neuroliminal CD package for you and/or your family, you can do training every night for as long as it takes. Some even keep it on during the day, and a few schools are using it as bacakground in classrooms.
Why does the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training system sometimes fail?
Neurofeedback/
EEG biofeedback doesn't always work either and the same reasons apply in both cases:
* The particular brain problem isn't caused by allergens. As an example,depression is caused at least 20-30% of the time by mercury or other mineral toxicity. Even the mercury in tooth fillings may cause toxicity. Certainly, the evidence clearly shows that Autism is mostly caused by mercury toxicity from infant immunization shots in an even higher ratio.
* The trainee(s) didn't continue long enough for success. Since NFB/EEG BF may take up to (and over) 60 sessions perhaps Neuroliminal training requires even more for some individuals.
* The Hawthorne Effect might scare a sensitive individual by regressing after a few nights of initial improvement and that individual quits out of this fear. (This has not happened in our tests after we have explained this effect.)
* There may be unknown unconscious factors which prevent success. Bedwetters sometimes are "punishing" themselves or their parents! The unconscious mind is often a very strange place.
What is the Hawthorne effect?
This is a strange phenomenon where the trainee makes noticeable improvement over a few initial sessions, but then relapses and may actually get worse symptoms for another few sessions then again starts to improve steadily. It's sort of like the brain isn't sure of what's happening and is "afraid" of this "strange" change initially. The very early single case of insomnia failure was attributed to the Hawthorne factor. While it is also seen in NFB/EEG BF, it is not usually as big a factor.
Perhaps it's because the NFB/EEG BF is done using the conscious mind to influence the unconscious mind, there is less "unknown fear factor" in this, where the Neuroliminal training goes directly to the unconscious mind. In either event, this problem can and should be simply ignored and improvement will come within a few nights.
How does the Bate Neuroliminal Training system and/or NFB/EEG BF solve the various brain problems?
The basic idea behind both is repetitive suggestions. This slowly and effectively changes the unconscious mind set in ways we don't fully understand. Dr Bate's theory is that raising the SMR brain wave somehow changes the brains response to allergy and/ sensitivity and so far, this theory has been proved by hundreds of cases..
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I first proposed this theory in 2000, and in the 11 years since, so many people have literally "cured" their allergies and sensitivities by prolonged usage of NT, I am sure that the theory is correct).
It's important to note that neither NFB/EEG BF or the Bate Neuroliminal Training claim to cure any allergy or sensitivity or any other disease. What is done by either system is changing the brain response to that allergen by raising the SMR brain wave.
Is it possible to use both NFB/EEG BF and the Neuroliminal system?
Yes, in fact Dr Bate gave a free copy of the original NT audio program to several Play Attention lessor/buyers while Dr Bate was selling or leasing those. (2004 to 2006). Some wrote emails in thanks saying that they thought it helped reduce the number of sessions and many allergy symptoms seemed to be lower or gone.
What's the difference between EEG Biofeedback and Neurofeedback?
None. Neurofeedback is a "new" term invented to "sell" EEG biofeedback as something new - and therefore better. Not so. They are basically the same thing, although NFB encompasses HEG biofeedback as does NT.
How many sessions of NFB/EEG BF or nights listening to the Bate Neuroliminal Training system does a person with a diagnosed brain problem need to train themselves "out" of the brain problem symptoms?
That's a bit like asking how high is up? Like many things in this life, response is individual and it is virtually impossible to predict how quickly any one will respond to the training. Some persons have responded very quickly to either or both and others have taken much longer to respond. The seriousness of the brain problem doesn't seem to be a factor.
How are brain problems diagnosed?
One of the problems is that many of the medical or psychological diagnostic terms (depression or ADD/ADHD for example) are artificial terms used to describe a "medical" problem for insurance purposes and classification. However, unlike diseases which I call "binary diseases" such as measles, mumps, cancer, etc, which you either have or don't have (binary), there are many medical problems that are "continuum" types.
These include most brain problems such as ADD/ADHD, autism, heart problems, depression, schizophrenia, etc. These "diseases" vary both in symptoms and individual reactions. The medical attempts to classify them and put them into specific categories is almost entirely for insurance purposes and all too often doctors differ widely in the diagnosis - a cruel joke in some cases.
The continuum of ADD/ADHD/Autism ranges from the normal exuberant (or spoiled) child to actual autism of non-responsiveness. There are infinite stages within this (and all brain problem continuums) and many different symptoms for different individuals.
Can a baby be trained using the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training system?
We have no such specific cases reported to date, however even newborn infants have been trained by NFB/EEG BF, as have cats and other animals. We also know that babies even in the womb are "trained" by outside sounds, WHO KNOWS? If anyone reading this would like to try the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training, please send me an email detailing the case and I'll be happy to work with you. There is absolutely no danger of any bad side effects. As of the latest test, a 2 year old autistic non-communicative child improved dramatically in 60 sessions, and is continuing use.
Can NT be used on children or adults who do not speak English?
Yes, I have now had five cases ranging from 6 to 16 years old. The first was a Mexican boy who did speak some broken English. The next was an Argentine boy who spoke no English. The third was Brazilian, the fourth, Norwegian. The last one was several months ago, and he only spoke Arabic. All cases were successful.
This brings up many interesting scientific questions! Does the subconscious/unconsious know all languages, or does it translate the meaning intuitively? This is fascinating to me, and I have no answer, so just accept it gladly. I've done hypnosis for some 65 years, and have seen many things that were hard to believe. This certainly strengthens Jung's theories of the Universal Mind.
What happens if a child doesn't show dramatic improvement in a month of nightly sessions using the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training?
Simply continue using it nightly. Some individuals seem to need more sessons. Dr Von once had to do about 200 sessions of EEG BF for a child on the ADD-Autism continuum before he achieved success in that case. So WHAT? It costs nothing to just keep playing this audio so what if it takes longer? (Dr Bate and his late wife played it every night and did so for well over five years. Both noted gradual improvement in allergy/sensitivity symptoms and memory.)
What ages are known to be appropriate for Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training?
There is no set age. However, we really know nothing about how advanced the unconscious mind may be even if the conscious mind is just beginning. In this uncharted area of the unconscious mind, there are many theories and few facts!
Is the Bate Neuroliminal Training hard to set up and use?
All you need is an audio player that can "loop" (play the same track over and over). The audio is normally in CD (.wav) format. Most CD players work fine. A computer works well after downloading any of the free player programs available. The instructions that come with the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training system are clear on this.
How can I be sure that this isn't just a scam to get my money?
There are some scams on the internet and people are smart to be cautious. Dr Bate has now been in business for over ten years and scams just don't last that long.
MYTHS AND DOWNRIGHT LIES
There are a lot of myths and mysteries about NFB/EEG BF. Some have been promoted by clinicians in order to make more money. Some have been promoted with good but mistaken intentions.
Dr Bate is devoted to making it simpler to get kids off Ritalin and other dangerous drugs. Leasing or even buying an EEG biofeedback unit and using it at home was the best and least expensive answer until now. Now, since the Bate Neuroliminal Brain Wave Training system does exactly the same thing as NFB/EEGBF, at a fraction of the cost and trouble, it is obviously a better choice
EEG BF is very complicated with possible harm in the hands of a non-clinician. Absolutely Wrong! It's so simple and so safe that no state even requires a license to do it! Other than some early experiments in training at other frequencies and causing some epileptic seizures, there is no record of any real harm from any biofeedback training! No such experiments have been done for years and many units cannot even train at these frequencies.
Neurofeedback is different (and better) than biofeedback. No difference at all. Neurofeedback now includes both EEG and HEG biofeedback. The name was originally coined to "sell" EEG biofeedback a bit better
A different form of EEG biofeedback is used for different brain training. Not quite true. Although Dr Bate has concentrated more on ADD to Autism on this website in the past, there are many other "brain problems" solved by this exact same training. The same brain training used in the Dr Bate system (SMR elevation, Theta reduction) is used for ADD to Autism, and without Theta training for depression of all types, insomnia, stroke and brain injury cases, epilepsy, irritable bowel syndrome, colitis and much more. (For a more complete list of "brain problems" solved by EEG biofeedback see Proof).
I believe that this same training may be able to eliminate death due to anaphylactic shock (bee stings, peanut allergy, etc). Dr Sterman used it originally to make cats immune to a toxic substance (hydrazine) that killed all other cats. Dr Quirk and Dr Von Hilsheimer used it to reduce recividism in a prison population, using nearly 2676 prisoners. (15% instead of the usual 70+%). We are just beginning to find out how many uses there are for such brain training.
A battery of expensive tests (QEEG, Tova, etc) is needed to diagnose a child with ADD/ADHD. IMO, just not necessary to treat except to add to income for clinic. See FAQ above. (For some free tests go to free ADD/ADHD/autism Tests).
Electrode (sensor) placement on the head is very important. Also, proven wrong. It doesn't seem to matter which points are used, the human brain sorts it out. If the particular researcher happens to get a good result from a particular set of sensor point(s), that researcher will think positively about those points and use them from then on. It is his belief in this that is affecting his results - a well known (placebo) phenomenon in hypnosis and blind and double blind studies. The truth is that the composite brainwave signals can be observed from any point(s) on the human body. I once proved this to several people by using sensors between toes on opposite feet, and visually controlling a Pong type of game with my SMR wave. It discomfitted a lot of people by proving their theories wrong
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ADD/ADHD can come back when training stops. Again, justnot so. This is only true when only a few sessions have been done. If training has continued until symptoms stop, then these gains are permanent in nature. As a matter of experience, most trainees seem to improve still further after training.
Brain mapping is necessary to determine various things. (Only in increase clinic profits - it does nothing to treat.) In one case brought to my attention, it actually seemed to make ADD worse. As shown above, electrode/sensor placement seems to have little affect on outcome. If the overall brain signal is strong enough with a good connection to the scalp, EEG biofeedback works well. However, if you think, for whatever reason, that a certain sensor placement will be better, by all means use that. Your belief may actually make it work better!
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The longer used, the greater the benefits.
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